Senator Leila De Lima
declares Senator Alan Peter Cayetano 'out of order,' unparliamentary, while
Cayetano calls out Senator Antonio Trillanes IV for 'trash talk'Two of the strongest critics of
President Rodrigo Duterte faced off with the Chief Executive's staunchest ally
in the Senate as a supposed key witness was presented at a Senate hearing on
the spate of extrajudicial killings under the new administration.
Senators Leila
De Lima and Antonio Trillanes IV took turns against Senator Alan Peter
Cayetano, Duterte's running mate in the last elections, at the third hearing of
the Senate committee on justice and human rights on Thursday, September 15.
The exchanges
happened as Cayetano grilled witness Edgar Matobato to check his credibility as
a witness. He said he also wanted to "test" his theories on the
motives behind the alleged former Davao Death Squad member's decision to speak
about the killings in
Davao City when
Duterte was still mayor.
The exposé of
Matobato – which Malacañang
denied – heated the
atmosphere at the hearing, but the 3 senators made it more colorful as they, at
times, spoke simultaneously, trying to put in the final word.
Cayetano took
a swipe at the Liberal Party as he questioned Matobato, accusing De Lima's
political party of bringing the witness into the Senate
After the resumption, De Lima apologized to
Cayetano for butting in earlier. She, however, explained that the witness was
finding it difficult to "appear in a proceeding like this."
But while she
was still speaking, Cayetano again butted in – something that De Lima did not
take sitting down, this time.
"Let me
finish please. I am the chair here. I am the chair here," De Lima said
while Cayetano kept on talking.
Referring to
Trillanes, Cayetano said: "Madame chair, it's on a different matter. My
seatmate here is intimidating me."
"Madame chair, I am trying to ask
questions. [But] he told me here, 'Di kita papapormahin,' and then he tells me
here, 'Nabubuo pangarap mo, you are defending evil.' So, Madame chair, I'm
trying to get to the bottom of this at kung totoo sinasabi, tatabihan 'nyo ko.
ita-trash talk 'nyo ko. I never did that to any of my colleagues," he said.
(He told me
here, "I won't let you show off," and then he tells me, "You're
reaching your dream, you are defending evil." So, Madame chair, I'm trying
to get to the bottom of this, then [he] would sit beside me and trash talk me.
I never did that to any of my colleagues.)
De Lima
suggested that Cayetano just transfer to another seat.
Cayetano
responded, "I can move but can you make sure he doesn't follow me?"
Cayetano
continued his statements but suddenly stopped, accusing Trillanes of
"intimidating" him once more.
He asked De
Lima, while putting the plastic nameplate between him and Trillanes: "Can
Senator Trillanes stop talking to me? I don't want to talk to him but he keeps
talking to me. I will put this (nameplate) between us."
To this, De
Lima said: "Senator Sonny can you please transfer?Lipat
na lang po. 'Wag na ho kayong magtabi (Please move. Don't sit beside
each other)."
In the end, it
was Cayetano who transferred to another seat.
Trillanes then
responded by hitting Cayetano's continued questioning.
"Masyado mahaba, 'yung pasikot-pasikot,
masyadong madaldal. Kumbaga it's quite annoying and irritating already. Sana he
gets to the point," Trillanes said.
(It's too long
and winding; too talkative. In other words, quite annoying and irritating
already. I hope he gets to the point.)
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